YMCA of the USA Competitive Swimming and Diving Fo: Eliigibility

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apple
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Topic: Eliigibility
Posted: Jul/24/2006 at 8:06pm

Help! What do I do? I see 2 swimmers on the LC pysch sheets that I am 99.9% sure are ineligible. Swimmer R from YMCA "C" has only swam this summer (90 day rule) and has not swam 3 closed Y meets. Swimmer J from YMCA "W" swam for YMCA "C" last season up thru YMCA STates in March 06 and has not swam 3 closed meets or a sanctioned meet, or 90 days with her new YMCA. Our YMCA preaches honesty and integrity!!! What do I do?? Who do I contact?? Their entries need very carefully checked.

apple

Edited by apple - Jul/24/2006 at 8:20pm

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Glenda Pae
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Posted: Jul/25/2006 at 2:16pm

Hi Apple,

You will need prove of this statement. Then contact the meet director Ed Strance @ 1-773-339-2206 and explain your position.

Glenda Pae

Any questions please feel free to call me at 717-362-9494.
Yours in Swimming....
Glenda Pae

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Ed Stranc
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Posted: Jul/27/2006 at 9:51pm

If you have proof that that there is a swimmer(s) that do not meet the eligibility requirements of the meet, the proper procedure is to file a written protest by the coach or director of your YMCA, signed, and presented to the Meet Committee for consideration. All relevent documentation should be attached to the formal protest letter. I am available at all the registration sessions to make an initial review of your documentation, and accept the formal protest.

Ed Stranc Jr.
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Edited by Ed Stranc - Jul/27/2006 at 9:53pm

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falconswimmer
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Posted: Sep/26/2008 at 5:51pm

Can a Y swimmer represent a club team in a CLOSED conference meet in mid-march...where swimmers can switch teams daily and USS rules DO NOT APPLY and still swim at Y-Nationals?

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Glenda Pae
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Posted: Feb/18/2009 at 12:27pm

only if the team is a High School Team.

You can only repesent one team in closed competition in a current season.

Sept 1 through April 1st.

We would definetly need more information about your statement.

Glenda Pae

Any questions please feel free to call me at 717-362-9494.
Yours in Swimming....
Glenda Pae

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MDCarunungan
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Posted: Apr/13/2009 at 7:28am

Do swimmers have to have certain number of hours of practices to participate in 1) Y closed meet 2) clusters meet 3) zone meet 4) nationals champs?

Also, I want to also make sure I understood correctly that Y swim practices can only be held by Y certified coaches, even if they are USA certified. Is this correct?

Could you please tell me what resources I can reference?

Thank you very much to replies to previous postings.

Maria Carunungan

Maria "Dulce" Carunungan

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Ed Miller
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Posted: Jun/30/2009 at 10:04am

Glenda Pae is really a better person to answer this one, but let me take a stab at it. Practice schedules and how many practices are required for participation in meets are at the discretion of the local YMCA team. There are no national requirements. The only national requirements are for participation in the YMCA national championship meets and for such participation, the swimmer must have swum in three YMCA closed competitions and one YMCA sanctioned championship meet (e.g., a state, cluster or regional meet).

I don't understand your question about coaches. If you are asking whether a swimmer could practice with another team and have that practice qualify for the YMCA team's practice requirements, that is up to the local YMCA team. However, a swimmer may not represent two teams, so a swimmer couldn't swim for a YMCA team and a separate, different USA-S team at the same time. (Many YMCA teams are also USA-S teams, so that is not a problem for them; also high school swimming is not considered "dual representation" from a YMCA perspective.)

For reference materials, you can go to the YMCA website (www.ymcaswimminganddiving.org) and read the Rules That Govern YMCA Competitive Sports, the YMCA Technical Assistance Paper and the YMCA Swimming Black Book. You can also read the Meet Handbook for one of the National Championship Meets, as they will answer a lot of questions that may come up in your mind.

Ed Miller, National Officials' Committee Chair

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apple New Member Joined: Jul/24/2006 Location: United States Posts: 2	Topic: Eliigibility Posted: Jul/24/2006 at 8:06pm
	Help! What do I do? I see 2 swimmers on the LC pysch sheets that I am 99.9% sure are ineligible. Swimmer R from YMCA "C" has only swam this summer (90 day rule) and has not swam 3 closed Y meets. Swimmer J from YMCA "W" swam for YMCA "C" last season up thru YMCA STates in March 06 and has not swam 3 closed meets or a sanctioned meet, or 90 days with her new YMCA. Our YMCA preaches honesty and integrity!!! What do I do?? Who do I contact?? Their entries need very carefully checked. apple Edited by apple - Jul/24/2006 at 8:20pm

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Glenda Pae Moderator Group Moderator-Eligibility Joined: Apr/29/2006 Location: United States Posts: 186	Posted: Jul/25/2006 at 2:16pm
	Hi Apple, You will need prove of this statement. Then contact the meet director Ed Strance @ 1-773-339-2206 and explain your position. Glenda Pae
	Any questions please feel free to call me at 717-362-9494. Yours in Swimming.... Glenda Pae
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Ed Stranc Active Member Joined: Apr/29/2006 Location: United States Posts: 22	Posted: Jul/27/2006 at 9:51pm
	If you have proof that that there is a swimmer(s) that do not meet the eligibility requirements of the meet, the proper procedure is to file a written protest by the coach or director of your YMCA, signed, and presented to the Meet Committee for consideration. All relevent documentation should be attached to the formal protest letter. I am available at all the registration sessions to make an initial review of your documentation, and accept the formal protest. Ed Stranc Jr. Meet Director Edited by Ed Stranc - Jul/27/2006 at 9:53pm
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falconswimmer Active Member Joined: Jul/30/2008 Posts: 16	Posted: Sep/26/2008 at 5:51pm
	Can a Y swimmer represent a club team in a CLOSED conference meet in mid-march...where swimmers can switch teams daily and USS rules DO NOT APPLY and still swim at Y-Nationals?
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Glenda Pae Moderator Group Moderator-Eligibility Joined: Apr/29/2006 Location: United States Posts: 186	Posted: Feb/18/2009 at 12:27pm
	only if the team is a High School Team. You can only repesent one team in closed competition in a current season. Sept 1 through April 1st. We would definetly need more information about your statement. Glenda Pae
	Any questions please feel free to call me at 717-362-9494. Yours in Swimming.... Glenda Pae
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MDCarunungan New Member Joined: Feb/04/2009 Location: United States Posts: 3	Posted: Apr/13/2009 at 7:28am
	Do swimmers have to have certain number of hours of practices to participate in 1) Y closed meet 2) clusters meet 3) zone meet 4) nationals champs? Also, I want to also make sure I understood correctly that Y swim practices can only be held by Y certified coaches, even if they are USA certified. Is this correct? Could you please tell me what resources I can reference? Thank you very much to replies to previous postings. Maria Carunungan
	Maria "Dulce" Carunungan
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Ed Miller Moderator Group Moderator - Officials Joined: Apr/29/2006 Location: United States Posts: 159	Posted: Jun/30/2009 at 10:04am
	Glenda Pae is really a better person to answer this one, but let me take a stab at it. Practice schedules and how many practices are required for participation in meets are at the discretion of the local YMCA team. There are no national requirements. The only national requirements are for participation in the YMCA national championship meets and for such participation, the swimmer must have swum in three YMCA closed competitions and one YMCA sanctioned championship meet (e.g., a state, cluster or regional meet). I don't understand your question about coaches. If you are asking whether a swimmer could practice with another team and have that practice qualify for the YMCA team's practice requirements, that is up to the local YMCA team. However, a swimmer may not represent two teams, so a swimmer couldn't swim for a YMCA team and a separate, different USA-S team at the same time. (Many YMCA teams are also USA-S teams, so that is not a problem for them; also high school swimming is not considered "dual representation" from a YMCA perspective.) For reference materials, you can go to the YMCA website (www.ymcaswimminganddiving.org) and read the Rules That Govern YMCA Competitive Sports, the YMCA Technical Assistance Paper and the YMCA Swimming Black Book. You can also read the Meet Handbook for one of the National Championship Meets, as they will answer a lot of questions that may come up in your mind. Ed Miller, National Officials' Committee Chair
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